126 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

Not sure if I rework them, or make new one's. From the link to Freddy's shop, it looks like the nock region.....


If you have uncertainty here but don't want to put out the money for the real deal, it may be wise to consult with the guys over at ATARN that actually make this stuff and have taken measurements from museums and what not in order to replicate traditional arrows like these quite well.

Not worth potentially injuring yourself here m8.

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127 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

....many archery shops sell whistling arrowheads for about 5..6$ - which would be my preferred alternative.

Which quite frankly seems a bit excessive as well in terms of price for what the item actually is. 

Especially if its by the piece. 

Ping pong balls I'd imagine would also suffice in this matter well and would go further for your buck.  All you need are a few simple tools and willingness to just spend some time.  Especially considering the ephemeral nature of ammo.  Heads can be one of those pesky things that get lost or damaged easily.  I'd rather spend my money on just normal arrow heads that sell for that much by the 12 pack and add any bells and whistles as I would desire.  No pun intended.

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128 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

Don't know what the 235$ refer to...

The Hyoshi / Whistling Arrow.  Check the link a few above I posted.

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129 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

And if you don't want to shell out 235 dollars for one whistling arrow here is a cheap alternative:

https://ottomanbows.blogspot.com/2012/0 … orant.html

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130 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

Only, I would not shoot this particular arrows on a range....


You can always set up 'soft targets' at a range which I'd sometimes do unless your range/club is strict or limited here.  However I usually prefer to shoot all my bows on private property at targets that are appropriate.  Regardless, arrows break.

Anyway....

These are intriguing but never felt like investing:

http://www.koreanbow.com/shop/index.php … ;id_lang=1

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131 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

Still confused by the price - 50$ is what I expect for a well-made historical replica, not for a "everyday" product.

That sounds rather like the latter...


Arrows break all the time.  Regardless of type or make.  Period.  'Historical replicas' or probably better terminology in this case, traditionally made things, are never cheap and are hardly 'everyday products' in any sense. 

The mantra repeated at most archery ranges I've ever been to: don't fall in love with your ammo.

Anyway if you have other questions or concerns relating to the products I suggest you contact someone over at the site.

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132 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

At that price, I would have been disappointed, too ...
I had used shortened wood arrows for my experiments, left-over one's for low draw weight bow.
The results were quite mixed, because at that time, I struggling with my technique.

Wasn't disappointed that way.  More of a public notice plus review of what to expect when using bamboo arrows at that length.  Even in Kyudo, the bamboo arrows break all the time.  So I fully expect that.  However, you can actually send them back to Japan and have the fletcher repair the arrow.  Not so much in Gungdo.

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133 Reply by geoarcher

(5 replies, posted in Bows)

oni wrote:

The $845 one may draw "softer" but the $500 one is just as attractive from an authentic point of view.
I've just bought a Hwarang & have too many bows to consider more purchases tongue


Interesting, so I have you tried it before?

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134 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

Used these with my tong-ah before:

http://www.koreanbow.com/shop/index.php … ;id_lang=1

Didn't think it was too much of a learning curve to shoot with them and the tong-ah but was very disappointed when I hit a harder surface part of the target I was shooting at with one of the three I had causing it to break.

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135 Reply by geoarcher

(5 replies, posted in Thumb Rings)

Same archer from OP but in a more recent video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUu8VDzZRuI

Still like to watch his technique even if it may seem a bit aggressive.

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136 Reply by geoarcher

(6 replies, posted in Accessories)

bluelake wrote:

Mostly, I think it is just a matter of regular use...

Thank you bluelake.

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137 Reply by geoarcher

(15 replies, posted in Bows)

Anyway, so I did my own poking around and according to this reputable bowyer who is making one of these Korean war bows, they are in fact Joseon era:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set … mp;__xts__[0]=68.ARBuPssKd8i3nglSx2-TQR5nUyLzQ-3uqaiftyRMu_RPQwHWTvW_ZiIyk6hBG_t1oSo4jHFuvXi6ZfaRN8UVKlVainvewd_SrxV9VjHUhBep8Jzz5u5ajOzbQ8RnNczt9MRcORomdZtTsCNDB1g8KdtUAcS_4zvACxXpvdb1v3e-oFVCU6lDovmA6qgbQ17jYL_vdrRmIsQPAXWgfTKckrdY-bj-JEjIo43S-KvWK8CTKEWRD2_OIwm-SaggYgK7CAM-95U9-npeptpFIpvccQYanCxP16J9XDFUjDpA672jimm3xmkw44BZ2q7tZtbjV5iFW9AR8jnvGlsZd9P5KSfuu10CZ-C29hSr7rhPi73-7QWk38iEW-CUW0-5MTLSSZaUGQtBr9qLsYqvY3cyy0X36-D5cT7AulOOFP4vBoF3DwQgK4zi_oZmNiSyzZXV8E-3IZ_dMhNJN57BwNKA&__tn__=HH-R

Which I kinda suspected anyway.....

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138 Reply by geoarcher

(15 replies, posted in Bows)

ragnar wrote:

Did Koreans engage in a kind of flight shooting at that time, comparable to Ottomans ?
Or was it just comparatively speaking ?

Not sure.  That's also why I'm trying to figure out the time frame of the war bow's use.  If its Joseon era then it was likely used up until the time archery for combat becomes obsolete. Therefore the logic, the way I see it, is 'if that's the war bow proper then what we typically see today is/was not'.  And had a different use/purpose.  Flight shooting is something that seems to exist in older times so long as you have a noblitiy/upper-class that wanted something leisurely to do.  And that's really I can say about that.

I will reiterate though that I am ultimately not sure and clarification is much needed here.

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139 Reply by geoarcher

(15 replies, posted in Bows)

geoarcher wrote:

So I understand that this is the 'actual' Korean war bow but what time time frame was it used in? Joseon era?  Goryeo? etc.

Also, I believe the gakgung typically sold today was standardized more around 1500 AD if not mistaken?  But in actuality its more of a flight bow rather than one used in combat?  Or was it used in combat?

So many questions....

bluelake, any thoughts on this?

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140 Reply by geoarcher

(15 replies, posted in Bows)

So I understand that this is the 'actual' Korean war bow but what time time frame was it used in? Joseon era?  Goryeo? etc.

Also, I believe the gakgung typically sold today was standardized more around 1500 AD if not mistaken?  But in actuality its more of a flight bow rather than one used in combat?  Or was it used in combat?

So many questions....

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141 Reply by geoarcher

(2 replies, posted in North America)

LKS wrote:

Hi everyone,

My name is Luke and I live in the lower mainland of BC, Canada.

I'm interested in learning the art of traditional korean archery. However, I'm not sure how to start this journey.

Are there books, or online resources that I can read to get my foot in the door? If so, what are your recommendations??
Also, is there an institute or anyone out here in Canada that teaches traditional korean archery?

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Luke

Your best bet right now is to buy one of these books:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=korean+tradi … _sb_noss_2

I have the third and I'd say its pretty useful but am not at all familiar with the other two which are newer versions of the same subject.  They are of course by the same author who is head admin here and goes by bluelake on this forum.  You can reach out to him here for further insight regarding these two books and other questions or concerns if you can't get all the information you need here on this thread or forum.  More contact and bow information can be found here as well:

http://www.koreanarchery.org/classic/hwarangbow.html

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142 Reply by geoarcher

(13 replies, posted in Philosophy and Etiquette)

In order to squash the spam here a bit I will answer....

I know from practicing another art how difficult it can be for anyone to have proper let alone 'straight' form.  I see new people who can't get shoulders aligned straight, and others who may lean back or even towards the shot.  So how does having a 'straight' mind relate?

If straight means direct or focused in this sense, then possibly the ability to focus on what you are doing will straighten your body.

If straight means or relates to the spirit, then having such a mindset would perhaps make the body strong and allow it to straighten.

If straight means having a just way about the individual, then perhaps this reflects in the shooting form.

Of course I tied this to shooting and it need not be applied simply to this.  The connotations can go beyond our daily practice of archery.  It has been said after all that the mind is the most powerful organ in the body and what is in our mind can greatly influence the body. 

If the mind is 'straight' or lets say properly aligned or upright then so will the body.  The saying reminds us that we must sharpen our minds perhaps even more than our bodies.

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143 Reply by geoarcher

(6 replies, posted in Accessories)

ShinLa wrote:

Perhaps the "taming" appears as the bow limbs take a set after several stringing and un stringing cycles.

Perhaps.  My experience though with a new gakgung was that several attempts at stringing and leaving them on the dojigae did minimal in any taming.  However I am unsure if I was doing this as frequently and as long as I could.  Also, I wasn't using a heat box.

I wonder if bluelake has any thoughts on this?

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144 Reply by geoarcher

(65 replies, posted in Bows)

AsaMil wrote:

Was Armin not giving good recommendations in the past?

Let's just say his 'promotion' of Jackal bows and Alibow were somewhat controversial.  The details are in this thread.

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145 Reply by geoarcher

(3 replies, posted in Bows)

All I can say is the old Kaya's and the SMG, Hwarang, and HMG are all good choices.  As I've said here plenty of times.  I'll likely never have experience with those other bow types unless my HMG and Hwarang break in the very near future.

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146 Reply by geoarcher

(6 replies, posted in History)

yeah, not working for me still.  could be something on my end and if so someone else will just have to chime in.

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147 Reply by geoarcher

(6 replies, posted in History)

ok.  maybe just share the link then?  might be a tad easier.

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148 Reply by geoarcher

(6 replies, posted in History)

ragnar wrote:

see the appended image.

I'm not seeing the image.  Not sure if this is a problem on my end or what.

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149 Reply by geoarcher

(3 replies, posted in Bows)

So you checked for limb alignment and structural damage.  No problems there.  A new factor was however introduced: a new string.

So maybe verify or check the follow:

1) Check with manufacturer to see if SMG string is an appropriate replacement. 

The Tageuk's apparently are armed with Fast Flight strings.  I doubt SMGs would be significantly different but just check anyway.  Manufacturer may have specifics here.

2) Check with manufacturer regarding brace height.  Your new string may not have enough twist in it to effectively keep the bow stable.  Check with them on this matter and then adjust brace height if needed.

3) Verify your string length is correct.  It may be but just verify somehow.

I know the manufacturer may not be directly reachable so you may have to go to koreanbows.com and ask Freddie.  Other than that, that's all I got.

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150 Reply by geoarcher

(45 replies, posted in Arrows)

ragnar wrote:

BTW, a club fellow of mine recently showed me photos of replicas of Japanese ceremonial arrows he made. I had organized the bamboo shafts for him. The arrowheads where very elaborate, and in the same pricing ball park.
Perhaps I can get some photos from him...

Cool!

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