1 Reply by bjarup

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MrJoe wrote:

Thanks bjarup. I only had access to the righthand model so that is what I have gone for.

Could you tell me if three under or mediterranian 3 finger draw works best on the khan? Or does it not matter?

  It is 50# draw so maybe I can progress to shooting thumbring how you do it in the near future.

Cheers!

I use both three fingers as with ordinary recurve and thumbring.  I never used all fingers under.  With Right handed bow and thumb ring placement is so that index finger is just below the arrow to avoid pushing the arrow off the shelf.

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2 Reply by bjarup

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With a draw length of about 28" a left handed Khan (assuming that You are right handed and wants to use thumb ring - else right handed) will provide You with exactly what You need as the Khan has the arrow shelf to support = less things to learn at first.  Go for a 35# to 45# bow.

I shoot my right handed Khan using thumb ring like the Mongolians (arrow on the left side of the bow) and it works fine.

To utilize the KTB and get the same power from it as the Khan You need a longer draw length.  The Khan gives You all it's got at 28" - 29.5" and it ain't slow.

Everything said IMHO.

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3 Reply by bjarup

(51 replies, posted in Technique)

bjarup wrote:

How do You measure draw length?  From nock to belly or nock to the back of the bow?  On the Kaya Khan the difference is more than an inch.

Any other input on this question?

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4 Reply by bjarup

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raven

Thanks. That's what I thougt.  Btw. Did You receive the private message I sent You?

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5 Reply by bjarup

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How do You measure draw length?  From nock to belly or nock to the back of the bow?  On the Kaya Khan the difference is more than an inch.

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6 Topic by bjarup

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Anyone done a comparison of these bows?

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7 Reply by bjarup

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Trident wrote:

Sorry I have not had a chance to Chrono yet I have been traveling with work and stuff. I hope to chrono the bows this weekend, and will let you guys know. I just got the chrono in and haven't had a chance to set it up but it should be easy to do. I have a few bows I will be testing, and will let you all know how it goes...

How did the chronoing go? :-)

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8 Topic by bjarup

(3 replies, posted in Technique)

I was wondering.

Sometimes you see people hold the bow high over the head and drawing while pulling down. Other people draw like you would a ordinary recurve bow.

Which method is "correct" when drawing the Korean bow?

Does one method have any advantages over the other when using the Korean bow?  Strenght, power, stability, form?

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9 Reply by bjarup

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Trident

I have only shot a few shots with the Khan as I have an injury in my left shoulder (bike accident) which hurt when drawing.

But I do notice that the Khan has some serious potential.

Did You have any chance to do some chronoing?  I'm very interested in how much energy the Khan may deliver at various draw lengths and arrow weights.

I was wondering. With a draw lenght at max 31". How much energy could the KTB or Hwarang deliver at what power (40#, 50# etc.)

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10 Reply by bjarup

(39 replies, posted in General Interest)

Yes, please, Thank YYou.

Bjarup

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11 Reply by bjarup

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Trident

Thanks for Your posts.  I'm eating it like candy. ;-)

I'm going for the heavy arrows and I'm going to do the bamboo ones myself.

I'm going to use Montec threaded broadheads, as these are awailable in both hunting version and training version sharing the exact same caracteristics.

I might do a thread of my first attempt.  We'll see.

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12 Reply by bjarup

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Trident
It seems that You shoot some rather heavy arrows.  Did You crono the Khan and / or the Hwarang?
How does the Hwarang draw weight feel compared to the Khan?
I am receiving a dz of Tonkin bamboo arrow shafts shortly and I am giving it a shot at building my own arrows, based on Your description.
These shafts are almost 500 grains by themselves.
Do You have any recommendations for inserts and points weight wise?

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13 Reply by bjarup

(76 replies, posted in Bows)

Trident

Yes, I hunt.  You are right.  Deer are colour blind, and rely on scent, sound and visible movement to locate / identify predators.

I doubt that I could catch a fox while wearing a white t-shirt though and the Geese probably won't let me come within range in one either.

But maybe that's just me.  smile

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14 Topic by bjarup

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Beautiful little bow.

Now I just need the thumb ring, the arrow shafts, feathers, nocks, inserts and broadheads.

It's a working bow, so I'll be using broadheads all the time (non sharp ones for training).

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15 Reply by bjarup

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A very nice project indeed,  even though the "girl" is a bit too furry for my taste.

Maybe the white tips might stick out being too visible in a hunting situation the same way that the white part of the hunters eyes scares off prey like waving a white flag.

Just my humble thoughts.

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16 Reply by bjarup

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Sounds good.

I am really looking forward to those chrony results.

And I can't wait to pick up my Khan today or tomorrow, according to UPS.

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17 Reply by bjarup

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It looks nice.
Will it affect performance?

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18 Topic by bjarup

(6 replies, posted in Arrows)

Hi
Where do I get good inserts for screw on points / broadheads for use with Bamboo shafts?

Thanks in advance.

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19 Reply by bjarup

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Some aspects of mongolian thumb ring shooting at the end of this video

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20 Topic by bjarup

(15 replies, posted in General Interest)

I was wondering.......

How many of You honorable archers hunt with Your Korean bows?

What do You hunt?

How do You hunt? (from a tree stand or sneaking silently around)

What is Your succes rate?

Do You have fotos of your hunting sessions?

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21 Reply by bjarup

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jbl wrote:

Interesting method. 

Would you have to worry about the ring/thumb getting caught in the loop?

Probably depends on the size of the loop.  Shouldent be too tight, me thinks.

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22 Reply by bjarup

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Hannu wrote:

http://www.primitiveways.com/archer … _ring.html
Here some pics of thumbring with string loop...

Excellent.
Exactly what I Want.  Now why didn't I think of that myself. smile   Now I'm sure that ordering the Khan right handed was the right decision.

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23 Reply by bjarup

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jbl wrote:

bjarup what do you mean by string loop?  On a thumb draw it makes contact with the string just like with a tab.

Like almost all Compound Bow archers, i use a String Loop on the string for use with a mechanical release.

In other words, I shoot my Recurve the same way the compound boys shoot their compound bows.  Works great.

A string loop is a small piece of string tied to the bow string with two knots forming a loop for attaching a mechanical relase.  Just watch the Compound boys on u-tube and You'll see what i mean.

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24 Reply by bjarup

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Trident wrote:

bjarup don't get confused, the Khan bow is for traditional 3 finger draw. I dont recommend buying one for thumbring draw. Its not meant for that. The khan is basically a western style recurve shooting bow, with the size, cast, and power of the korean bow. Thats it. Thumbring style shooting look into the hwarang, or the kaya ktb bow. Those bows don't have a shelf. Simple. Don't get confused with the thumbring shooting, it is a different technique meant for more korean traditional style bows without the arrow rest.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm kind'a weird. roll   I took a shot (haha) at thumbring draw using my traditional Recurve bow yesterday.  It's right handed (window to the left).  I use a release with a string loop on my recurve and a movement-activated fall-away rest. No sights.  Works just fine.

I made myself a wannabee leather thumb ring, put it on and went into it.

Nocked the arrow placed my leather clad thumb somewhat below the arrow and my index finger as I have seen it done on u-tube, BUT I didn't touch the arrow with my index finger.   My arrows are not quite long enough to make a full 30" draw as they are made fore traditional recurve archery but no trouble on that account. 

I let the arrow fly. It went low.

I hit the target by my third arrow (I have 20 meters in my back yard).

It seems that I didn't have to change my aim much.

For now my conclusion is that it may be possible to shoot a right handed bow using a thumb ring. Only things needed for this is eliminating the hold on the arrow by the index finger and a nock that has sufficient grip on the string so that it doesn't fall off when drawing the bow.

As stated above, I am weird. -------- but it works.  big_smile

Today i succumbed to click-itis.  Went to Quicks and clicked myself a Khan 55#, Right handed (only option in their shop).

Oh boy, what have I done to myself.  roll

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25 Reply by bjarup

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bluelake wrote:

When using a thumb draw, the index finger pushes the arrow inward (against the bow); if the arrow is on the side of the bow one shoots using fingers, it will be pushed away from the bow.

Ahh.  Got it. ;-)  Thanks for shedding the light.

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