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(4 replies, posted in New Member Introductions)

Welcome to the forum donglnap and facultyofmusic.  Response can be slow but there are some very knowledgeable people here.

facultyofmusic wrote:

In videos of people practicing with their horn bows I sometimes notice sections of their bows are tightly wrapped with threads.  Sometimes it's a small section along the limbs, sometimes it's almost the whole bow.  What is the purpose of this wrapping? 

EDIT: I tried attaching a picture to illustrate, but it's not showing in the post.

The thread or cord wrap is usually to reinforce the transition joint between bone and wood of a horn bow.  Same for the glass or carbon fiber laminate to wood joint of the more modern construction bows.

Thank you for the translation.  I should mention that my Korean language reading skills are worse that my verbal skills.

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(1 replies, posted in New Member Introductions)

Welcome aboard Foggerty!  We have some great resources here.

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(1 replies, posted in Bows)

I'm guessing that it doesn't matter unless you need to raise the brace height by twisting the string.  There are many more experienced members here who might have a better opinion.

Welcome to the forum!

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(2 replies, posted in Arrows)

ngnicholson wrote:

I have a Kaya KTB 50@31" looking for arrow spine recommendations, my draw is 31" in the past i tried some Platinum Plus 2315 34" (340 spine i think) arrows i was given. They drastically go right using the thumb release. That may be me learning thumb release or too stiff a spine.

If your arrows are grouping well, just focusing on where you want them to hit will cause your body to compensate.

Kit wrote:

Hello,

I am practicing archery for a few years with a bare bow, and I wanted to test something more traditionnal and a different way to shoot.

I was wandering along the internets, looking for informations about Korean Traditional Archery and found a few interesting topics on this forum (nobody practice KTB in my area).

I'll probably have a few questions when I'll purchase my first korean bow.

Welcome to the forum Kit!

I believe the differences are just a visual thing.  That said, if you don't like how a bow looks you won't enjoy shooting it as much.

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(3 replies, posted in Bows)

this link may help:

http://www.koreanarchery.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=472

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(3 replies, posted in Bows)

What is the manufacturer and model of your bow? Older style KTBs made of wood, fish glue, and horn had birch bark limb covering to protect them.  More modern bows of wood and fiberglass laminate simulate the birch covering with other materials.
For the older construction you may have to have it repaired in Korea.  Modern KTB manufacturers may sell appropriate replacement coverings.

is this it?
https://www.amazon.com/Daylite-Archery- … B0871XMZ3L

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(9 replies, posted in Bows)

Interesting read, thanks for posting that.

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(102 replies, posted in Bows)

I'm hoping that my step through method of stringing the bow is the cause of the RH tiller and that by reversing step through sides I can reverse the tiller.  If so, once I regain neutral tiller, it can be maintained by alternating step through stringing sides from then on.

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(102 replies, posted in Bows)

I'm going to switch how I string the bow from holding the upper limb with my right hand and the lower limb over my left leg to holding the upper limb with my left hand and the lower limb over my right leg.  By next Spring if the "Korean Tiller" moves the other way I'll know it's caused by I string the bow.  If the tiller doesn't change, it's caused by how I shoot or it came that way from YMG.  (Shooting left handed is not a good option for me.)

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(102 replies, posted in Bows)

geoarcher wrote:
ShinLa wrote:

Just to clarify, There wasn't a LH or RH option when ordering the YMG.  It just came with a small, thin chuljeonpi on the right side of the bow.  As to "Korean Tiller", when braced the string is centered on the lower limb and slightly to the right on the upper.  I assumed that to be within manufacturing tolerance but it could also be "Korean Tiller" if such a thing exists.

Correction; I just checked and there is a LH or RH description for the YMG sold by KoreaBow.

Right, and I was going to ask you how long ago did you order.  How did they know to equip your bow with a right side arrow pass?  Did it come like that by default?

Also, did you check for a Korean tiller before you started shooting it?  According to that one thread by bluelake, often times a right or left tilt will set in on the laminates based on how the bow is shot by the user.

I ordered in the Spring this year and didn't think to check for Korean tiller at first.  By the time I noticed, it could have been caused by how I shoot or how I string the bow.  If you look closely at the picture in the KoreaBow catalog you can see the arrow pass on the right side of the YMG.

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(102 replies, posted in Bows)

Ok.  Yeah I notice they sell a 2 pack of chuljeonpi in the accessories section.  And then also an 'arrow rest' product.  I wasn't too sure though if the RH/LH option was actually referring to the Korean Tiller concept.  I suspect this option on other web sites likewise does not refer to 'Korean Tiller'.

Just to clarify, There wasn't a LH or RH option when ordering the YMG.  It just came with a small, thin chuljeonpi on the right side of the bow.  As to "Korean Tiller", when braced the string is centered on the lower limb and slightly to the right on the upper.  I assumed that to be within manufacturing tolerance but it could also be "Korean Tiller" if such a thing exists.

Correction; I just checked and there is a LH or RH description for the YMG sold by KoreaBow.

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(102 replies, posted in Bows)

geoarcher wrote:
ShinLa wrote:

My YMG has an arrow pass (chuljeonpi) only on the right side.  I assume that means it is a RH bow.

Did you get it over Koreanbows?  I wasn't too sure if they were equiping bows anymore with chuljeonpi or if that option referred to something else.

Yes, the bow is from Koreabows but the arrow pass isn't the same one they sell separately.

bluelake wrote:

Sorry I've been absent for so long, guys. Regarding your question, there have been some papers on historical Korean archery; most are in Korean, but a few are in English. Look for papers by Kim Ki-hoon. He is a good friend of mine and he's written several such papers in English.

Thanks Bluelake for the reference to Kim Ki-hoon.

Preserving information in current forms and languages is a big task.  Not only must we do the translation but we must also select what to preserve and when.  The immense amount of info out there forces us to be selective and to do it while adequate knowledge of the old and new media still exists.

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(102 replies, posted in Bows)

My YMG has an arrow pass (chuljeonpi) only on the right side.  I assume that means it is a RH bow.

My guess is that it will be a daunting translation.  The earliest written texts were probably from China written in Chinese hanja going over to Korean/Chinese hanja around 400bce.  The modern Hangul style coming in around 1400.  I can barely manage Romanized Korean on a menu.

Yes, a text from feudal times can't be called a recent one.  But, I was speaking to the relative age of a text as compared to the entire age of the subject the text is concerned with.

I my example I meant to imply that the archery methods described by even feudal texts may predate the text by several decades if not centuries.

That said, any written account would go a long way toward forming a basis for discussion that we lack today.

First let me say that I am not an expert nor do I hold any advanced rank in any of the Asian martial arts.
That said, my somewhat limited experience in the martial arts is that they are taught by example and repetition as opposed to study of written materials.  The existence of written materials is a relatively recent thing in the span of time that martial arts have existed.
Without finding a teacher who has been taught by more senior practitioners and they by others more senior than them and so on, it is very hard to progress.
At least that has been my experience in Okinawan Karate and Korean Taekwando.  I guessing it is the same with Asian archery forms.

geoarcher wrote:

So the guidance I recieved on the technique from a Korean archer was to twist the handle counterclockwise.  The arrow will then keep a distance from the 'bow body' according to the correspondence I have on the matter.  Actually according to this correspondence, it essentially would ensure a clean pass of the arrow without wrapping around the riser thus improving accuracy.  There is a YouTube video out there demonstrating this too.  Still very different from khatra though as the rotation there is forward to improve speed while here is sideways to improve accuracy if I am reading my correspondence correctly.

I will need to learn how to do this when I start using stiffer arrows.

geoarcher wrote:

Points I found interesting:

2) Cheil KTB.  Never heard of them before but apparently the product is quite good.  Not really in the market for a KTB these days but still good to know what else is out there.

YouTube with info on Cheil KTB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxQ1yqK … mp;index=6