Topic: korean horseback quiver

Hi friends, this is my first post here and I started to make a korean quiver. If anyone can help me with some details about how this quiver was made I would appreciate. I found a couple of pictures but more is better.
the best picture i found:
http://www.pem.org/writable/resources/image/overlay_full/e20140quiver-arrows_copy1.jpg
We can talk here about the way arrows are hold in, how it's made, what kind of materials... about the strips that hold the quiver...

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You can see an example in the Grayson collection:

http://anthromuseum.missouri.edu/grayso … hery.shtml

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The quiver itself doesn't look difficult to make, but I'm not sure I would trust it to carry the arrows without falling. Are they effectively sandwiched tight between two pieces of leather or something?

I guess the placement of the straps is also fairly critical to stop it overbalancing.

A quiver like this is on my "to make" list. I've ordered the stuff for it recently, so I guess I will start work in the next few weeks.

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IIRC, the arrow quiver has individual slots for each arrow.

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slots with tubes? do you have some pics or a draw with that?

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I'm not sure if I have any pics anywhere, but I will look.

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I was under the impression they were gripped between two surfaces, sandwiched as Naddum suggests.

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dady wrote:

Hi friends, this is my first post here and I started to make a korean quiver. If anyone can help me with some details about how this quiver was made I would appreciate....
We can talk here about the way arrows are hold in, how it's made, what kind of materials... about the strips that hold the quiver...

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These are my attempts to quiver for a bow and arrows (Korean style). Does this error, I know.

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~HUN~ wrote:

I was under the impression they were gripped between two surfaces, sandwiched as Naddum suggests.

It's been a while since I last saw one, and I never really paid close attention--I'll ask my friends at the Korean Army Museum.

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Jchocz - impressive! What are the dimensions? And do you not have problems with arrows falling out / the quiver overbalancing?

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naddum wrote:

Jchocz - impressive! What are the dimensions? And do you not have problems with arrows falling out / the quiver overbalancing?

Quiver bow under the bow I made Hwarang and Kaya. Dimensions do not know. The quiver of arrows for the top plate of bamboo. Below is a bamboo foam, and that holds arrows. Foam is flexible and arrows holding up well.

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12 (edited by Bede 2010-11-30 07:50:43)

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The quiver in the first part of the post is for a left hander or the photograph is reversed.

I think the majority of these quivers in museums are for court ceremonies and are not usable quivers for horse archery. I have examined the one in the Grayson Collection several times and the arrows, darts, arrow guide and bow are not made for use. There are many paintings in Korea of officials in processions and at court with bows and arrows in this type of quiver.

They are clearly related to the Manchu quivers used in the Qing Dynasty of China. However, the ones I have seen close up rarely have the complex three strap suspension of the Qing original.

I did see one quiver with two felt pads inserted into the mouth as spacers. The Manchu used a similar system in their quivers. A felt pad was folded across its middle and inserted in the opening of the quiver. It was sewn in place at either end by thin leather strips. Two screws were inserted from the outside face of the quiver through the pad and out the inside face. Nuts were used to tighten them on the inside face (the side against the archer's body).

I made a scaled down version of a Manchu quiver and bow case to see if it would work with a Korean bow and arrows.

Small Manchu Set

The image isn't appearing but you can see it here
http://picasaweb.google.com/bededw/Quiv … 3222217106

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13 (edited by dady 2010-12-06 10:23:12)

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thanks a lot for info's, i started the quiver and i finished last night, some photos:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TPvFCh6ba-I/AAAAAAAAEm0/SbPj8WUkGQ8/s800/DSC06911.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TPvFD_5Z0fI/AAAAAAAAEms/tFdaDAQJ8WU/s800/DSC06913.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TPvFEqeGFMI/AAAAAAAAEmw/TAWJ3PlQ5P8/s800/DSC06914.JPG

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Very nice job Dady. How are the two pockets joined at the back? Also, I see the loops for holding the arrows, are there some on both sides?

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thanks, you can see other pictures here with my quiver, but the back side was not finished when i took those pics.
http://picasaweb.google.com/andreiavram00/Quivers

another quiver i made those days:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TPQLt0DXX9I/AAAAAAAAEi4/HNseSa2Ten0/s800/DSC06839.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TPQL2f1vszI/AAAAAAAAEjQ/JoMo32GZC4g/s800/DSC06845.JPG

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Very nice :-) What is it made of?

On a side - those fletchings in the OP seem quite long. How do you draw them back without ruffling them?

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i don't use this quiver for shooting, only for caring arrows.
you can see here something similar:
http://user.chol.com/~knife01/knife/ARROWBOX-4.jpg

i wish i had some bamboo to make something like this big_smile

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Hi guys, i forgot to post the final status of the quivers i made, so here they are:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TRX2mchZU9I/AAAAAAAAEos/4maa1nRlnCU/s800/DSC06972.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TRX2nBLfESI/AAAAAAAAEow/2xMBjhVMfZI/s800/DSC06975.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TRX2n9tuB0I/AAAAAAAAEpA/amIqa0nVjFs/s800/DSC06979.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TUHR8xUaPBI/AAAAAAAAErY/qnNkz7AsoKQ/s800/DSC07145.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_GLEW7B9T9vY/TUHR-yq2smI/AAAAAAAAErw/uCaFyAQ4IpE/s800/DSC07152.JPG

and some movies using them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2krdajWuKDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmasYvyYXdI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xf1yixCKbE

maybe you can comment what's wrong with my technique and what can I improve, thanks

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19 (edited by sissara 2012-03-17 03:10:47)

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I have some pics of Qing style quivers and interesting arrow spacers.

http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/museums/ubhist/ubhist0587.jpg
http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/museums/ubhist/ubhist0468.jpg
http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/museums/ubhist/ubhist0468d.jpg

And I think this is parade quiver.
http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/museums/ubhist/ubhist77.jpg

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20 (edited by Mechwar 2012-03-19 01:16:25)

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nice pictures!  Sissara!!    I think, that spacers looks damaged  yikes


people think it's horstback quiver, but I can't sure that.
according to the record, this slim quivers were developed for armored soldiers first,
but soon, it's replace other quivers, (belt or long quivers... ) even horse back quivers.
actually, this style quivers are very useful, but pretty hard to making   smile
I'm starting to make this style quiver now.
I think I can product it for real shooting!

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21 (edited by sissara 2012-04-18 12:04:04)

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I tried tube spacers in my new short quiver. The spacers were made of 1/2" dim, 6" aluminium tube and I found taking arrows out are a bit difficult. Arrows still rattling as I walk or run. Although I install the quiver with three point hanging. High center of gravity of the arrow bundle make the whole thing swing in and out left and right as I move too.
At the end, I put Gung-Dae (bow sleeve) over the arrow shafts (similar to palace guard) and it's much better. I am thinking about shortening the tube or change the spacer style.
I did some research for spacers and found other style such as holes in leather, string devider and cloth rope (Qing, chinese, as showed above).
Is there any member could tell me what is the historical spacer for such a short quiver like the one in the top image of this thread?

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/s_issara/vac/2012-04-18170953.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/s_issara/vac/2012-04-18170925.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/s_issara/vac/2012-04-18171015.jpg

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Hello Archers!

What the quiver on this photo?

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Looks to me like this one http://www.cinnabarbow.com/marinerbows/quivers.html

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Mule wrote:

Looks to me like this one http://www.cinnabarbow.com/marinerbows/quivers.html

Thanks! It was he, and there. A nice job, but is not a traditional korean quiver.  sad

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Hi
Mayby this? ebay auction Is almost perfect

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