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Shot this a few minutes ago. critique it please.
http://youtu.be/pbFuH-jNGNg

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from the other side;
http://youtu.be/N28eo5fG7GQ

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Generally, quite good.  Nice form, consistent anchor, smooth release.

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4 (edited by WillScarlet 2011-12-07 03:46:15)

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What is your bow weight and draw length?
No criticism, but an observance and question; it seems that most (all) thumb ring shooters readjust the ring after (before) every shot. Does the ring move that much, should it?
  I have never shot with a thumb ring.
Will

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WillScarlet wrote:

What is your bow weight and draw length?
No criticism, but an observance and question; it seems that most (all) thumb ring shooters readjust the ring after (before) every shot. Does the ring move that much, should it?
  I have never shot with a thumb ring.
Will

Yes, they do tend to move a bit.  I readjust mine back to the knuckle after every shot.

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WillScarlet wrote:

What is your bow weight and draw length?
No criticism, but an observance and question; it seems that most (all) thumb ring shooters readjust the ring after (before) every shot. Does the ring move that much, should it?
  I have never shot with a thumb ring.
Will

It depends, when i practice speed shooting, there is no time to readjust.

I use turkish style, here some video of that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqqStGeYsj8&NR=1

I am not as fast as Murat Özveri, yet... tongue

I think turkish style with shorter draw is good for hunting, it is easy to aim and, as you can see, it is very fast style.

Korean style with long draw is bit slower and harder to aim.

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My leather thumb ring stays in place.

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zdogk9 wrote:

Shot this a few minutes ago. critique it please.

Element of forward releasing when I look at your right shoulder, most shots. No back tension.

Second video forward releasing corrected by third arrow but creeps in a bit towards the end. On release, try to let your arm come to rest with a count of one, two, three from release to finish, following the same path each time.

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This may help out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZGYLvjv … ideo_title

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That is a style of follow-through that is only practiced by certain people here in Korea (noteably, archers from Hwanghak Jeong in Seoul).  There is a group that advocates it, called "Onkagzy" http://www.onkagzy.com/ (in Korean, 온깍지).  If you watch Chinese or Japanese trad archery, their release is very similar.

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The basic principle though, is the same with all archery in order to maintain consistency with release. There is only one direction the drawing hand should go on release. Backwards.

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Hun,
What I'm seeing is that rather than relaxing my right had at release, I'm just relaxing, as a consequence my rt. hand follows the string for a few cm. before the arrow clears.

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Zdog9
The basis for a good release, regardless of method, requires strong back tension while relaxing the release hand.  You need to try and forget your release hand by concentrating on pulling your shoulder blades together.  When your back tension reaches it's max, just let the release happen....

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~HUN~ wrote:

The basic principle though, is the same with all archery in order to maintain consistency with release. There is only one direction the drawing hand should go on release. Backwards.

True, but the onkagzy method uses an exaggerated follow-through.  Other Korean archers' draw hands do go back, but just not to that extent.  Still, whatever gets one's arrow down to where they want it to be is the way to go!

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Kanuck wrote:

The basis for a good release, regardless of method, requires strong back tension while relaxing the release hand.  You need to try and forget your release hand by concentrating on pulling your shoulder blades together.  When your back tension reaches it's max, just let the release happen....

Precisely!
Forward release is a consequence of relaxing the the muscle groups concerned with drawing the string. The release can still be smooth, however, consistency is compromised as the hand is pulled forward.

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I've always been taught (read) that the release should be made within the "push-pull" motion at the point you reach your anchor, and if you come to a halt at anchor,(to aim) then the "push-pull"motion should be picked up again before release.

  For me, one of the most elusive of proper technics.

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Read Thomas' intro to KTA. He write about shooting a tethered arrow for awhile and after a time, learning to draw and hold for a three count before releasing.... Learn good technique first-speed and accuracy will come in time. We are all students of the bow....

Kanuck

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Well, some progress from my shooting...
Not close to perfect, but let´s keep practising.. smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5wnugeD … e=youtu.be

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z72yvRqT … AAAAAAAFAA

hello,
feel free to watch and comment on my form

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I can do no better than you for drawing and release.
But I would like to suggest you to try instinctive nocking (similar to Hannu's video) as traditional archery books told to keep eyes on target/enemy and I think it 's cool  big_smile .

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hm, i only use 2 vanes so instinktive knocking should be no problem.
still have a little problem with the 70#
but yesterdays 5h shoting was okay

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneaU7VD … AAAAAAAAAA
now you can crititize my relase :-)

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Looks VERY good to me.

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you should critisize me, only shooting since 1 month, beat me pls :-)

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25 (edited by WillScarlet 2012-02-22 21:05:19)

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Well, anyone can get better than what they are, but your release and follow through look very good. The only comment I would make is that your draw length is not as long as most shooters I see on here, but that is not a critique.   smile

       I take that back, after re-viewing your video, your draw length is greater than I remembered.
       
          About the ONLY thing I can see is your bow hand is not consistent moving out of the way. How is your accuracy?

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