1 Topic by Pedro C (edited by Pedro C 2016-10-23 13:09:04)

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Topic: Korean bows "leaning back"

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiw77sqgRJ8
Below, I recorded myself drawing a song mu gung here. It's normal for the bow to look and feel like it's 'leaning back' like that, right? I wonder why that happens and what effects it has. If I take a line perpendicular to the arrow at the point and also intersecting either of the bow's tips at full draw, in the bow's plane, it also looks like the bow above is "leaning back", although if it is a horn bow, and if it was balanced such that the top limb was weaker, then I think it wouldn't lean back so much?
basically it seems like the top limb isn't much weaker in proportion to the bottom limb? And/or the nock point is high, although I need to nock below the arrow pass, or use a high wrist grip, for my bow to not 'lean back'.
I have looked at the very asymmetrical Yumi bows and instead the grip has an angle leaning forward, and unlike with a lot of Korean bows, but not all, both limb tips are in a single line normal to the arrow (in the bow's plane)
Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvcZItRVCrw

I think it has been implied that this sort of tiller requires pushing the bow forward

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I think this "leaning back" tiller/property whatever could possibly result in arrows flying with the tail up, like here (excellent shot by the way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKa8cjgw9oE#t=5m
Would it make the arrows fly lower? Or higher?
Some slow motion footage would clear some of this up, I think..
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This seems like a horn bow. The bow's grip looks perpendicular to the arrow rather than leaning back. It looks balanced. No forward push either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgmBO-TeC-8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRYdAOQSYf8#t=5m45s
Bow looks balanced, if not leaning forward, and there is no pushing forward? Wonder what kind of bow it is. It seems like a songmugung, like mine...

The bows may shoot fine like this? My hypothesis is that they'll shoot the arrow leaning down, like in the video.
But it feels weird, like the bow wants to slip out of my hand, upward,,

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2 Reply by Pedro C (edited by Pedro C 2016-10-24 16:44:06)

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Re: Korean bows "leaning back"

Here too, the bow has the bottom limb bending more.. arrow points down a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aypiCkpffU

wild guess: arrow flies nose down (tail up) but gets shot up more, this makes it so one doesn't have to aim up as much for 145m shooting

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3 Reply by storm (edited by storm 2016-10-26 11:56:57)

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Re: Korean bows "leaning back"

These bows are very flexible and allow you to draw them in more ways. This is not a modern target bow, drawing technique matters. You are putting too much pressure at the bottom of the grip. Keep a high wrist, olympic style, and bow balance will improve. You'll notice your accuracy improve too.

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4 Reply by Pedro C (edited by Pedro C 2016-10-27 06:54:49)

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Re: Korean bows "leaning back"

That is not Korean technique, though. And I find it less comfortable. I think one way around it would be pushing forward with a low wrist, but I've only seen a minority of Korean traditional archers in Korea, from videos, doing that. (Just one member at Dae Han Jeung. He was pretty accurate, though...). And I find that difficult to control.

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