Perhaps the bow turn in traditional Korean archery is related to how the bow grip is taught and practiced.  For example the Olympic archers bow drops forward after a shot due to the lack of a grip on the handle.

What would be nice is a good discussion on 'torque' techniques from a Korean source (with the actual characters and Korean name for this) and in what context the technique should be used in exactly.   It seems to be, in name, jumbled up with the term 'khatra' these days thanks to the ATARN FB group but also here I noticed a bit.  'Khatra', a term that the Mamluke Taybugha writes of during his time in the 1300s Middle East, is to my understanding, a forward rotational technique and should not be mixed up or associated with the 'torque' that the Koreans use.

Whenever I consciously try to apply khatra or torque my accuracy goes down.  So for now I just hold the bow and release the string.  The relatively low spine arrows I use may be allowing this to work for me.  (600 spine carbon shafts with a 40# bow)

Sometimes, like when looking at this Youtube, I wish my parents taught me to speak Korean.  But, my Grandmother wanted us to be "mainstreamed" into American society.

I worry about the details and nuances lost in translation of technical subjects.

Ran across this Youtube while wasting time on lock down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55AZT_WvXfY

I can't speak to the info presented or accuracy of the translation because I wasn't around in in the time frame he's talking about and my Korean language skill leaves a lot to be desired.

It is entertaining though.

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(3 replies, posted in New Member Introductions)

Welcome to the forum!  This is a very quiet group but a lot of good knowledge resides here.

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(2 replies, posted in Kaya Bows)

oni wrote:
ShinLa wrote:

Could anyone tell me what the brace height of a 50" Kaya KTB should be?  It's a second hand bow with no documentation and I wanted to be sure before I started shooting.  (It's finally warming up here in NH.)


5.5" -  6"

Thank you!

Should we be so literal?  Doesn't "Straight Mind and Straight Body" apply equally to both Korean traditional and Korean Olympic archery?  Yet the the physical form  of the archers is different.  Does that imply that just a "Straight Mind" will suffice or does the "Straight Mind" of one archery discipline follow the form of that discipline's "Straight Body" by being different in some way?

Perhaps what appears to be different is in actuality the same.  That the concept of "Straight Mind and Straight Body" transcends what we observe with our eyes and what we think with our brains.  And so applies equally to not only the two mentioned forms of Korean archery but also to any human endeavor.

A Zen approach.

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(2 replies, posted in Kaya Bows)

Could anyone tell me what the brace height of a 50" Kaya KTB should be?  It's a second hand bow with no documentation and I wanted to be sure before I started shooting.  (It's finally warming up here in NH.)

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(2 replies, posted in Bows)

Thanks for your reply CTR.  I use a stringer for my recurves to be safe but my Kaya KTA requires some skill to string and unstring safely.

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(2 replies, posted in Bows)

I've read some stuff about it being better to leave a laminated fiberglass recurves strung then to subject them to the risk of bending a limb by constantly bracing and un-bracing.  I understand that a traditional Korean horn and sinew bow should not be left strung for long periods of time.

But what of the new laminated fiberglass Korean bows, can they be left strung for long without damage?

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(5 replies, posted in Accessories)

ragnar wrote:

Do many people use a Ggakji bohodae?  Is that something I, as a newbie, should look into?

I would say, that depends on you.
I build myself a leather protection for the thumb from a cheap leather working clove.
It looks very similar to the thumb-part of said Ggakji bohodae, and I do quite well with it.

Having tried several solid thumb rings, I never came to like them.
I just need the specific pressure feeling, and feedback.

Interesting, for now I'll keep working with a solid thumb ring but I have noticed that it's a little slippery on the string.  I'm too new at this to be changing until I get the basics down.

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(5 replies, posted in Accessories)

bluelake wrote:

Similar to that, but that is a thumb release device all on its own (they work well).

Do many people use a Ggakji bohodae?  Is that something I, as a newbie, should look into?

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(5 replies, posted in Accessories)

Something like this?

http://www.koreanbow.com/shop/index.php … ;id_lang=1

Bought a used 40# Kaya KTB.  It's a little heavier that I was looking for so I'm taking it slow.  Just drawing and holding to get used to the weight for now.

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(6 replies, posted in Accessories)

Perhaps the "taming" appears as the bow limbs take a set after several stringing and un stringing cycles.

Try; http://archerybuy.com/korean-traditiona … ation.html

Ginseng wrote:

First off I'm a new member and have been looking into Korean/Eastern archery for a bit, but really haven't taken the time to really learning. Long story short, I like shooting really heavy bows (I shoot warbows). I'm mainly interested in a strong Hwarang bow (from what I've read it seems to have divine powers), but if someone has a strong Manchurian bow, I'd be willing to take it off your hands. I live in the U.S.

I'm not planning on dedicating myself to learning the traditional shooting method as I can't figure it out with my lack of depth perception and other issues that I have. So while it might be blasphemy, I'd shoot it mediterranean with a thumbdraw. All kidding aside, I'd probably still give it a go (always thought it would work well for moving targets, pheasants, squirrels, rabbits, etc.)

I figure I'd apologize in advance if I broke some rules of early member postings or something along those lines.

Why so heavy?

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(3 replies, posted in Bows)

Recently bought a used Kaya KTB.  Can't wait for the weather to warm up enough to shoot outdoors (-5F this morning).  So, I'm practicing my draw indoors to get used to the 40# draw weight.

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(21 replies, posted in Books)

I just read Bluelake's Traditional Korean Archery on my Kindle.  To a newbie like me it's a great primer for Korean archery.

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(7 replies, posted in North America)

geoarcher wrote:

I was actually incredibly interested when I saw this information and contacted Freddie.  Sent an email to out to the address he gave a couple of days ago but no answer yet. hmm

Anyone else able to do better?

Same results here.  Freddie Won responded with an email address for the Korean American Youth Program in Auburn, NH which didn't bounce but hasn't responded yet.

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(5 replies, posted in Thumb Rings)

Thanks for the info Geoarcher.  The one I got from 3rivers is a black plastic Vermil classic.  Beginner's luck!

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(5 replies, posted in Thumb Rings)

No luck with that source.  Ended up getting a black plastic thumb ring from 3Rivers.

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(7 replies, posted in North America)

bluelake wrote:

There is an official Korean archery club in N.E.  Check with Freddie Won for the current info: ktb@koreanbow.com

Thanks, I'll touch base with him.

bluelake wrote:

Welcome!  Although it's my forum, I don't get on here as often as I should...   smile

Thanks for the welcome, it's good to see a modicum of activity here.

Being a newbie all I can bring to these forums is enthusiasm until I pick up more skills.