Kaya Khan arrived (Page 1 of 2)

Bjarup, you don't need a thumbring for the khan, it won't work the way it's intended with the shelf. The khan is meant for 3 finger draw, which it does very well. Also I have to say that mountain man beaver fur string silencers work very well at silencing the shot to nothing. I personally use gold tip 55/75 traditional wood grain pattern carbon arrows and shoot them full length. I also put 100 grain brass inserts at the point to keep it front heavy with 125 grain field tips and a 3 fletch right wing helical, 5 inch feathers. shoots like a dream and the arrows penetrate at least 2-3" deeper into my target than my 70lb draw compound bow, the Mathews Z7 Extreme that's rated at 320 gps IBO. It might not be as fast but at 20yards it's plenty fast. If you want to try thumbring without breaking the bank, then get the kaya KTB, or if you want better get a Hwarang from blue lake. I just got a Brand new one in today from him, and it is sweet! Will post pics and review shortly.

bjarup I do shoot some heavy arrows... They weigh about the same as what bamboo arrows would weigh, which is what I plan to use once I get around to making them. I have not had a chance to chrono the bows yet, but when I get a chance I will. As for the inserts, I bought the glue on field point tips, but got them in 11/32, as I had some in 5/16 and it wouldn't even go over the tips. I have to drill a 1/8" hole, plug it with 1/8" wooden dowel, and I plan on cutting self nocks by using 3 saw blades taped together, center one facing opposite direction, and then use a 1/8" round file to do the fine work for the nock. And then bind in front of the nock with artificial sinew and use feather fletch. I think that would do it. But we will see. They are 33" and I am not going to cut them but leave them full length, as my thumbring draw is about 32" I think so these arrow length should be perfect. I tried lighter arrows, and they were fishtailing all over the place with my Khan. I know its not only the form, as my form has improved a lot from the first day out with it, and I tried recently again with lighter weight arrows and I was not happy with the flight characteristics and accuracy. I find the heavier arrows hit harder and are easier to control. For hunting the heavy weight will get you enough FPE to blow through the animal with broadheads. That is more important than the speed. It shoots plenty fast for me. I think I could have gone with a lighter draw bow and still got similar results but I wanted to have the most power possible, and the khan delivers. It is very easy to shoot for 3 finger draw. I find myself pointing it lower than you would expect it to have to be, but its dead on. And quiet, with the calf hair rest, I can only hear the feathers whizz and hit the target, boom. Thats it. The thumbring shooting bows are slightly louder  because you can hear the arrow shaft as it passes the arrow pass (leather strip).

Trident

Thanks for Your posts.  I'm eating it like candy. ;-)

I'm going for the heavy arrows and I'm going to do the bamboo ones myself.

I'm going to use Montec threaded broadheads, as these are awailable in both hunting version and training version sharing the exact same caracteristics.

I might do a thread of my first attempt.  We'll see.

Trident

I have only shot a few shots with the Khan as I have an injury in my left shoulder (bike accident) which hurt when drawing.

But I do notice that the Khan has some serious potential.

Did You have any chance to do some chronoing?  I'm very interested in how much energy the Khan may deliver at various draw lengths and arrow weights.

I was wondering. With a draw lenght at max 31". How much energy could the KTB or Hwarang deliver at what power (40#, 50# etc.)

Ginni those are pretty impressive numbers.  These bows certainly are efficient.

Someone might try out a trigger release and a D loop.  The result should even be better  .

Sorry I have not had a chance to Chrono yet I have been traveling with work and stuff. I hope to chrono the bows this weekend, and will let you guys know. I just got the chrono in and haven't had a chance to set it up but it should be easy to do. I have a few bows I will be testing, and will let you all know how it goes...

I was curious about the Khan and decided to take the plunge.  Ordered a LH 55# Khan last week.  It arrived yesterday.  The bow is smooth and easy to draw to 32" with thumb ring.

Will, the Khan do have static working tips.

Oh dear, I have been pulling the Khan quite a few times to 32" today.  I heard a cracking sound from the last pull.  Upon closer inspection of the lower limb, I found a slim and narrow piece of fiberglass or wood that is de-laminated or splintered off.  I immediately unstrung the Khan.       Not a good start . . .

You need to notify the company you bought it from right away.  The Khan is a great little bow (I was showcasing it, along with the KTB for Kaya this past week), but, like any type of bow, there can be glitches. 

It was intended to be drawn to 28", although it can go further than that; however, I wouldn't recommend doing it a lot.

It was great, just like last year.  It was especially made that way--for me--because of great people like those from Kaya, Greatree, Angel, and Fivics.  They are all top-notch operations, with people who are very kind and generous.