1 (edited by wayfarer 2016-02-09 13:44:31)

Topic: Sugakji style thumb ring build attempt

Hey everyone, I recently decided to create a Sugakji style thumb ring after seeing it for the first time on this forum about a month ago. I had a tear drop (Amgakji) style ring that I just couldn't get to fit properly without causing pain even after a callus had formed on my thumb. I noticed this pain got worse when I got a 55# Kaya KTB which is much heavier than my previous bow of 35# and I couldn't hold a full draw comfortably for any period of time. This thumb rings subsection really helped me find more information on this style of thumb ring and I saw another individual who created one on ATARN and I based my rings structure of theirs.

To build this ring I used wood as the material, specifically a piece of ash firewood that I split into a semi square piece.
If you use wood make sure the grain runs perpendicular to the string.

The tools I used are a knife, sandpaper, vice-grip, and a handsaw. So you don't need much even though there are more effective tools for the job.

I wanted to make this thread so people could potentially have some more info or motivation to make this type of ring and just to offer something in return for the information I have found on this forum. If you have any input or advice feel free to comment on that I am by no means good at woodwork or related things.

This is what I started with and the ring in the picture is my current tear drop style.

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsovxb8da4.jpg

I sketched out a rough outline on how I wanted to shape the ring on the piece of wood and put it into the vice-grip to cut with my handsaw.

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zps1rp0p5xj.jpg

I slowly started to get closer to my outline eventually getting to this...

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsf8pui4bt.jpg

In the picture above, I had the ring carved out into that shape already and I found it to be a potential issue when creating the hole for my thumb. Next time I make a ring or anyone else does I recommend that the side walls are not carved down into a form that is near its final shape unless you already made the hole. I was worried that the side walls would end up being to thin after the hole was made, common sense I guess  tongue ..

The hole on a Sugakji style ring should be a little more circular than those found on tear drop shaped rings (from what I read and saw) and it is normally a bit larger due to the use of a shim to create a perfect fit.
To make the hole I put the ring in the vice-grip and used a spade bit to get the hole near a size that my thumb could start entering but not go through. Then I just used a normal bit to begin slowly increasing the size of the hole but I left some space because I knew I would have to sand the inside down.

The hole came out looking pretty messy but the fit is good and the inside is smooth with no indentations.

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsthj0rtgm.jpg

Once I had completed the hole I used a knife to begin to shape the knob on which the string would rest (on the curved side). I hope the pictures I post help show the shape of the knob.

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsgulsqz6o.jpg

After a lot of sanding to get things smooth and into a relatively symmetrical shape I used a torch to char the wood for looks instead of staining it or any other method. Before you do anything try the ring out, draw the string and make sure that it is comfortable. I noticed that after already sealing the ring, the string would like to sometimes jump out of the indentation on the curved side and rest next to my skin so I had to go back and make it deeper to fix the issue. 

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpslfcp5zod.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsrgnzzs88.jpg

Next I just sealed the ring with urethane and cut a strip of leather to use as a shim to make the ring fit tightly. This was the final product.

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsu6dp5p3v.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zps2i4egswj.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zps7yolzutn.jpg

I noticed that sometimes the leather is glued on the ends to make a  ring which may be more convenient. Personally, I just slide the ring on and then by pushing my thumb towards one side I slide the strip of leather in (the ends are long v shaped) and pull it half way through so the wider portion is centered.

After using the ring the first 30 minutes or so felt strange but now it is perfect. I experience little to no pain and it’s a night and day difference from the tear drop ring I had. Although, I am sure a perfectly fitted tear drop shaped ring is just as good. After my short experience with this type of ring I won’t be going back to the Amgakji or other shapes. I can finally hold my draws at full length comfortably without pain for more than a few seconds. I will definitely make another more polished one sometime.

I hope my experience can help anyone interested in this style of ring or those who cannot get the tear drop shape to fit comfortably. If you want other photos just ask.

These may also be helpful.

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsbfrhfsqu.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/Nikas094/temporary_zpsbkzlwl7n.jpg

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Re: Sugakji style thumb ring build attempt

Looks good.  I saw a reference to one of these a week or so ago, thought it looked interesting so I'm glad to see a more detailed view.

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3 (edited by Pedro C 2016-07-30 01:46:21)

Re: Sugakji style thumb ring build attempt

Thanks, I might give this a try

Re: Sugakji style thumb ring build attempt

Good luck on the ring Pedro if you decide to make one. I still use mine whenever I go shooting, no complaints, I don't see myself using any other style of ring besides a Sugakji at this point.

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5 (edited by Pedro C 2016-07-30 22:06:16)

Re: Sugakji style thumb ring build attempt

Super nice! I'll try Ottoman and Manchu styles as well..

Do you get a clean enough release with this kind of ring?

Re: Sugakji style thumb ring build attempt

Hey sorry for the super late reply, but I would say I do get a decently clean release I notice no major difference in how I was shooting when compared to the other style ring. Only that it is much easier for me to draw and hold the bow at full draw. There are some other shaped sugakji rings if you look them up that may be even better.

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