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I choose SMG 60# Carbon at last to instead of my Kaya. They are the same poundage but quite different. SMG is very stiff. So it  is very very powerful. In my club, I never shoot thought the target with my Kaya before. But SMG does. I also use scale to measure these two bows. Kaya is from 20# @ to 60#@31''. But SMG is from 40# to 60#@31''.

Thank you so much, this function is very good in our forum.

geoarcher wrote:

He can help you out.

How to contact with him?

Mule wrote:

Also their prices for SMG bows are ~50$ higher

Thank you so much, But the issue is I send email to SMG many times.  It is no reply from them at all.  I also call them but it seems they can not speak English very well. We can not communicate at all. It is very upset for me.  sad  sad  sad

I found the website www.archeryshop.biz yesterday. There are lots of bows and gears. However, there are not any company name, address, or contact number. I am not sure is it the real company or just a fraud.

Any people knows about that ?

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Mule wrote:

Those are the prices I got when I called a few months ago. You'll need to call or email them to order.

I sent couple of emails, but seldom to get feedback.  It seems I have to ring them to get the price. They can speak English?

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To be honest, it is hard to find some channel to buy the SMG.

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Mule wrote:
a1111318 wrote:

It is one of the reason SMG is more expensive than Kaya and better performance than Kaya as well.

An SMG artificial horn(fibreglass) is $200, carbon $250, horn $330
I see KTBs go for more than that:
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/kaya-ko … w-set.html ($320)
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.a … mp;i=2409X ($295)
And considering how ugly (IMO) the KTB's patterned backing is, the choice is clear.

Where do you get the price for SMG ? Is that correct?

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misterwonky wrote:
a1111318 wrote:

Thank you so much for your explaination. Just couple of questions also confuse me. The SMG made from Bamboo but YMG and KAYA use Maple. Is it very different in their performance or not?

The Birch is very very good and important moistureproof for the traditional horn bow. But for the Carbon laminated bow, is it very necessary?  I just say that for the function rather than the aesthetics

YMG uses bamboo as well.  I've actually completely redone my bow due to a terrible accident (tripped down stairs and slide on my bow  sad), and I had to remove my birch, because that's what got damaged....in fact it was the ONLY thing that got damaged.  Like bluelake said, it is just there because it's beautiful.  I can't speak for the other bows, as I've not used them, but I have totally stripped my YMG, refinished it, re-backed it, re-wrapped it, and have seen some stuff about it that most people probably would never see; YMG goes to unusual levels to make sure that even the stuff under the birch, string wrapping, and leather is perfect even though you should never see it.

So when I had everything stripped apart, and it's innards exposed, I just sat there and admired how perfect it was even though no one should ever see it in that state.  Before buying my bow, I did at least 30 hours of research, and sent a lot of people a lot of emails.  In the end, I don't think that you could go wrong with any of the bows you're inquiring about, because they're all very reputable and have a significant fan-base.  I ended up avoiding actual horn belly because the bow I wanted would be my left hand, and it would have to endure everything I do.  I shoot in rain, ice, wind, dark.... and my bow has always been more reliable than I could've imagined.  The horn scared me (I live in a humid area...then dry...then humid sad), and while I want a horn bow one day, I would have to reach for my carbon YMG if I had to pick something I'd trust my life to.

Anyway, good luck man.  I know that whatever you decide on will be fantastic, and don't forget to brag to us about your new bow whenever you get it! big_smile

Bluelake told me the YMG made from Maple. Kaya also made from Maple. As far as I know, only SMG uses Bamboo. It is one of the reason SMG is more expensive than Kaya and better performance than Kaya as well.

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Mule wrote:

Strange.. does this work?

It works now. Thank you so much!!!

Have you shoot  the Carbon SMG? If so, the different is big between Horn SMG and Carbon SMG?

Some of my friends says the Carbon SMG is the fastest in all of the SMG including the real horn bow. Is it true?

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Mule wrote:
a1111318 wrote:

Do you have the unstring SMG horn laminate bow image?

Sure, here you go
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12212152/SMGhorn.jpg

I am so sorry, I can not see the image. It links "https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12212152/SMGhorn.jpg". But I can not open as well.

Could you show it again? Thx alot!

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Mule wrote:
a1111318 wrote:

SMG Horn is very good bow definitely. But horn bow is too hard to maintenance and string it.

The SMG horn isn't a true horn/sinew composite. Since it has fibreglass instead of sinew it isn't vulnerable to moisture damage and doesn't reflex as much as a horn bow. Unstrung it has the same shape as any other laminate Korean bow. It's the best of both worlds, the beauty of horn on the belly with the convenience of a laminate bow.

Thank you so much! Do you have the unstring SMG horn laminate bow image?

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bluelake wrote:

The top laminated Korean traditional bow is YMG.  That's not to say anything bad of the others, as they all have their merits.  I have sold SMG before and it is a good bow (I often personally shoot an SMG).  I also sell and shoot Kaya; it's a very good entry-level bow and performs as well as the others.  However, overall, I find the YMG to be superior, which is why I sell it.  Mr. Myeong-won Park, a friend since I first started Korean traditional archery over two decades ago, has been crafting bows for over forty years and his experience is well-reflected in his bows.  Also, he likes to keep things as traditional as one can with a laminated bow, which is why he uses natural birch bark for backing (SMG is simulated and Kaya uses a paisley-pattern sheep skin on its KTB).  With that said, the SMG hybrid horn/laminate is an excellent bow (and it uses natural birch bark backing) and SMG's owner, Mr. Do-min Park, is also a long-time friend of mine.

Thank you so much for your explaination. Just couple of questions also confuse me. The SMG made from Bamboo but YMG and KAYA use Maple. Is it very different in their performance or not?

The Birch is very very good and important moistureproof for the traditional horn bow. But for the Carbon laminated bow, is it very necessary?  I just say that for the function rather than the aesthetics

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Mule wrote:
a1111318 wrote:

What do you think the different between Kaya Ktb, SMG, and YMG? Especially the different between SMG and YMG?

With my view, the SMG is the best of them. Do you think so?

SMG horn ftw!  tongue

SMG Horn is very good bow definitely. But horn bow is too hard to maintenance and string it. I also want to have a horn bow. But not more experience to learn it. Have you shoot carbon SMG?  Any different between Carbon SMG and YMG and KTB?

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WarBow wrote:

No, I haven't used it yet.  I only used KTB, SMG and YMG Korean bows.

a1111318 wrote:
WarBow wrote:

a1111318, what do you mean when you say Hyumugung is very strong?  Is it essentially the same bow as KTB except for the lack of cosmetic on the back?

Thank you for your feedback. Freddie Won told me about it. Have you use this bow before? Is it OK or just so so. or the same as Kaya.

I show the email as below:



Hi Peter,

Well received your email.

The Hyung Mu Gung is different manufacturer.
It is more traditional than Kaya but it is more strong than Kaya.
The smoothness is Kaya is better.

It is OK you to order it from me with TT USD.

Best regards,

Freddie

What do you think the different between Kaya Ktb, SMG, and YMG? Especially the different between SMG and YMG?

With my view, the SMG is the best of them. Do you think so?

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bluelake wrote:

Hyunmugung is a separate bow company from the others--as far as I know, Freddie does not have a business interest in it.

That Hyunmugung bow company is as good as Kaya, or better or not as good as Kaya?

You mean this brand does not bring any margin to Freddie, is it? It can be seen the bow does not better than Kaya much. Even it may be not as good quality as Kaya. Kaya Ktb is good bow. It has been used so many years already.

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WarBow wrote:

a1111318, what do you mean when you say Hyumugung is very strong?  Is it essentially the same bow as KTB except for the lack of cosmetic on the back?

Thank you for your feedback. Freddie Won told me about it. Have you use this bow before? Is it OK or just so so. or the same as Kaya.

I show the email as below:



Hi Peter,

Well received your email.

The Hyung Mu Gung is different manufacturer.
It is more traditional than Kaya but it is more strong than Kaya.
The smoothness is Kaya is better.

It is OK you to order it from me with TT USD.

Best regards,

Freddie

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Hyunmugung seems very nice bow, and Freddie Won (Kaya Director) told me it is very strong. Stronger than Kaya KTB.

Anybody shoot that bow ? Do you have the unstringed images for this bow ? I really want to have a looking the unstring bow looked like.

Kind Regards,

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Any images of that unstring bow?

bluelake wrote:

Sure, no problem at all.

Thank you Thomas. How can I order from you? Could I send email to your hotmail address to ask for order Or some other method you recommend?

I will let you know the details information I need then.

One more question for Thomas, after 1-2years, if I want to change my bow, could I order YMG or SMG from you ? Could you help me to check the bow is all right and it does not have the issue of alignment of the string before deliver to me?

Thank you so much for this time!  Thank you!

The safe is the most important. Thank you to give me the feedback

bluelake wrote:

Great!

It is ok to shoot. For the Korean Traditional Bows, the center shot is different with western style bow.
It is ok position. Don't worry to shoot.

Best regards,

Freddie

Thank you so much for your help. I will wait for the feedback from Freddie and  I will share with you the feedback as well.

bluelake wrote:

Peter,

Freddie will be contacting you directly.


Thomas

Freddie let me send him the images of the bow. I sent. I also forward to you as well. Pls check your email.

Thank you Thomas!!!