Okay folks, I sent a message to Randy and got a reply. He has a 26" draw and uses the three-finger draw! Imagine a big dude like Eugen who has a draw of at least 33" and able to pull 90+# - we are talking about a clean pass through!!!
226 2011-10-04 01:27:54
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
227 2011-10-04 01:23:38
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
Yes Trident, there is a horn version but it is not a true horn/sinew composite bow.
228 2011-09-30 05:50:50
Re: kaya Khan bow (57 replies, posted in Bows)
The D loop would slow down the bow a bit by a few fps. But the trade off may be worthwhile if you like the thumb draw 
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229 2011-09-28 21:55:02
Topic: Horn Substitute (3 replies, posted in Bows)
In light of the shortage of horn material, advances in synthesizing and manufacturing horn material is required. Black paper pulp (phenolic) is not bad but does not even come close to real horn. At the moment man-made spider silk is almost a reality. Hopefully scientist and material engineers will eventually be able to make real horn material in slabs and sheets for bowyers.
230 2011-09-28 21:48:49
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
The Hwarang uses phenolic in combination with carbon and fiberglass. Hence it feels lighter at longer draw length compared to KTB's carbon and fiberglass lamination. If you have the horn version of the Hwarang, the draw feels even smoother and lighter.
If you are interested, order a biocomposite bow from Grozer. It's the closest thing to real horn/sinew bow. The draw is so smooth and soft. No man-made material comes close.
231 2011-09-27 21:09:32
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
No problem there Trident 
. Randy's KTB might be an older model that is still in stock at 3RiversArchery. The older model does not have that fashoin-bag fabric layer.
Trident wrote:
WarBow wrote:Trident,
According to Randy ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2U_ZszNQLo ), he got the bow from 3RiversArchery. I checked out 3RiversArchery and it does not have the Khan in its catalogue. Furthermore, the Korean bow in the video has string bridges and the Khan does not. In fact, the bow in the video has no arrow window. Therefore, we can quite conclusively say that the bow in question is a KTB.
Warbow, I checked again, and I was wrong it does not have an arrow shelf. I thought I saw one there, but the bow was shiny on the limbs like the khan, and he changed the grip so it looked like the khan... He does reply on the bottom of his video that it is the Kaya KTB bow, so you are correct. He must have done some customizing to his Kaya bow as well. Thanks for the heads up.
232 2011-09-27 21:06:48
Re: kaya Khan bow (57 replies, posted in Bows)
You might want to try out a LH Khan with a right-sided window . Then you can use the thumb ring.
Hannu wrote:
bluelake wrote:Hannu wrote:But you still shoot right-handed, bow on left hand, arrow on left side of bow?
I have try that with normal recurve, but arrow just goes far left.
I read "Kays thumbring book", and she says, mongolian archers can shoot both sides, so it is not matter which side of the bow arrow is.
Hope you understand my bad english...
Yup, I hold it in my left hand and release with my right. With fingers, the arrow is on the left side of the bow; with thumb ring, it's on the right. Yes, it's true what Kay said about Mongolian archers, but they are pretty much the exception.
T
Ok, i get it. I was trying to shoot arrow on left side, no wonder it did not work...
Must try my longbow with thumbring some day...
233 2011-09-27 07:16:11
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
Has anyone gone the extra mile and took the time to measure the peak draw weight of the Khan from 28" to 31" or even at 32"?
234 2011-09-27 07:14:17
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
Hannu,
Even with three-finger draw to 30", the KTB can push a 32" 2219 fatboy at considerable zip. Imagine using the thumb draw to fully utilize the KTB's 35" draw capability!
235 2011-09-27 06:54:46
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
Trident,
According to Randy ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2U_ZszNQLo ), he got the bow from 3RiversArchery. I checked out 3RiversArchery and it does not have the Khan in its catalogue. Furthermore, the Korean bow in the video has string bridges and the Khan does not. In fact, the bow in the video has no arrow window. Therefore, we can quite conclusively say that the bow in question is a KTB.
236 2011-09-26 19:47:45
Re: kaya Khan bow (57 replies, posted in Bows)
Thomas, did you use a a khan with a right-side window?
bluelake wrote:
Yesterday, I shot a few of my 500gr wood arrows with the Khan, using a thumb ring, and it launched them all the way to the Korean-style target 145m away. Although I wasn't able to reach a full thumb ring draw, the results were still very impressive.
237 2011-09-22 08:14:30
Re: Arrow Length and spine. (12 replies, posted in Arrows)
What about the height of the fletchings? I am thinking about 1/4" for four fletches.
238 2011-09-22 06:52:25
Re: Amgakji and heavier draw weights (14 replies, posted in Thumb Rings)
Usually a thick piece of leather underneath the thumb ring will do wonders. I have a leather thumb sock that works very well with an oversized thumb ring.
239 2011-09-22 06:50:28
Re: Maintenance (5 replies, posted in General Interest)
Thomas, is it possible to post photos instead of uploading as a file?
240 2011-09-22 06:43:53
Re: Arrow Length and spine. (12 replies, posted in Arrows)
The 33" 110# spined bamboo arrows from Mark Hill arrived at the post office for pickup today. For straight 90 degree four fletches, what length and height of parabolic feathers do you folks recommend?
241 2011-09-20 05:15:09
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
Hmm, it looks like the KTB . . . ?
Trident wrote:
Wow great video! I have seen this before thanks for the link... Yeah I didn't notice before but this is a kaya khan in the video he took that deer with... It's perfect for ground blinds because it's compact..
242 2011-09-20 05:09:44
Re: Kaya KTB Bow First Look... (76 replies, posted in Bows)
Trident,
We are in serious trouble, as in serious addiction! I too have too many Korean and Hungarian bows to count.
Trident wrote:
bluelake wrote:Great!
Thanks thomas! Now I'm gonna have to get a bow rack made for my growing collection... What started out as one compound bow grew to 2 compound bows over the summer, and recently 2 Korean bows with 2 more Korean bows on the way and growing... I'm sick!
243 2011-09-20 05:04:42
Re: Kaya KTB Bow First Look... (76 replies, posted in Bows)
What do you folks suggest for replacing the leather arrow pass? Mine is already close to wearing out. The arrows shaft or fletching really tear up the leather.
Has anyone thought about replacing the fashion-bag-like bow fabric? For those who would like to hunt with the KTB, what could we use as camo fabric?
@Trident, I can't wait for the photos of the stitched up new leather grip.
244 2011-09-20 04:49:58
Re: Arrow Length and spine. (12 replies, posted in Arrows)
There are wooden arrows that are more than 32" in length but they are too heavy for even the highest draw-weight Hwarang bow. I recently ordered a couple of dozens of bamboo shafts from Mark Hill. I will use 125 grains stainless steel tanged field points from www.arrow-fix.com http://www.arrow-fix.com/pages/media/do … 010_12.pdf
~HUN~ wrote:
I've only used wood or bamboo, no doubt carbons are more consistent but I am traditionalist at heart.
Wood is not an option because of the standard 32" length that I found just too short for safety. Tiger's bamboo shafts allow an extra inch of draw and I wouldn't really advise drawing much further with the standard length bow. Just holding my arms in a full draw position I can measure 35" or more. In reality, drawing the bow, I am drawing around 33" or just under, to a position where the index finger of my drawing hand (the arrow nock) is just behind the level of my earlobe. I think I would risk damaging the bow if I drew further.Bamboo arrows are just great to use and they are pretty good for straightness. With a few tweaks I've had some as good as any carbon. It really depends on how far you want to go when making these arrows but the beauty is you can go fully traditional with sinew wrapped nocks or you can slide a blank in the end and fit a normal plastic nock.
245 2011-09-20 04:21:06
Re: Carbon Bamboo Arrows (26 replies, posted in Arrows)
The arrows look awesome! I hope the shafts are available in 35" length. Here is an example of a carbon arrow with wood outer layer:
246 2011-09-17 07:43:00
Re: Gungdo arrows by Korean Arrowsmiths (6 replies, posted in Arrows)
You can purchase straightened and heat tempered bamboo shafts from Ebay and make them into finished arrows:
http://myworld.ebay.com/longbowmark/?_t … 4340.l2559
http://myworld.ebay.com/stmmrr1968/?_trksid=p4340.l2559
Here are more information on assembling the parts into arrows:
http://www.archers-review.com/arrows-an … ane-shafts
247 2011-09-17 07:36:44
Re: KTB performance data (4 replies, posted in Bows)
Althought the fit and finish of the KTB can be improved a lot, the performance is absolutely amazing for the money we pay. The KTB really shines if it were drawn more than 32".
248 2011-09-17 07:34:04
Re: Any experience with the kaya dong yi bows? (2 replies, posted in Bows)
Yeah, horn supply is very short.
249 2011-09-17 07:29:19
Re: Kaya khan bow good for hunting?? First post, nice to meet everyone! (33 replies, posted in Bows)
Not sure if I posted this before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2U_ZszNQLo
250 2011-09-17 07:26:18
Re: Kaya KTB Bow First Look... (76 replies, posted in Bows)
I only wish Kaya can make a 60# @28" version of the Khan.