I am looking forward to it! (and the updated book)

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(9 replies, posted in Accessories)

From a candle? tongue

I got besswax blocks online.. I guess they'll work well enough for synthetic strings? according to some people. Using a piece of leather or similar to rub the wax into the string sounds good.

It'll probably be a while before I wax the bowstring in my Nomad.

Thank you. It wasn't that big, but I did what you suggested and wrapped the handle with yarn. It's better now. It was too rough before, almost felt sort of like sandpaper after a while... I had no idea that it was meant to be customized.

This confirms that my bow is the 53" version. duh http://www.koreanbow.com/shop/index.php … er=product

The "perimeter" of the bow is actually 53" after all.

I have no problems with their service or anything. They were very nice to send me a longer string to lower the brace height.

Now to learn how to actually shoot this thing well.. applying torque and all that

They are sending me a new 125.5cm string, even though I didn't even ask for it explicitly. Very good service.

I must have shot at least 500 arrows with this bow today, I am very pleased with it. It is marked 특45 which is supposed to mean that it's the longer version, 45lb.

http://i.imgur.com/985eqOrt.jpg

I was supposed to do a serving/nock point like this

http://i.imgur.com/EMpbVqbm.jpg

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(2 replies, posted in Bows)

Awesome!! Any updates?

NickAntz wrote:

I think your bow has a couple more inches of draw. Here is a picture drawing my KTB. In the photo my draw is 30 inches. I usually draw it to 31. It's the max draw for the 48 inch.

Thanks. is yours 48" notch to notch as well?

Mule wrote:

Talk to them about it, koreanbow.com's always been nice to me when I talked to them about problems in my order (thumb ring sizing).

Waiting for a reply

http://youtu.be/gKvWYGxMsMA

I guess it's not that sad once I noticed that the top ear is more than 45 degrees of the horizontal. It's definitely stacking there... I really should be happy that I didn't break it
guess other Korean bows of similar length can be drawn further due to slightly longer ears that curve forward more
first arrow is 33" long.

Guess this isn't the 53" version after all, huh

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(19 replies, posted in Bows)

Mule wrote:

Raise your nocking point

This

I just shot today with my Nomad and... I did cut my thumb a little, though I was keeping this in mind. I guess putting the arrow parallel to right on top of the arrow protector thing worked well enough, and I stopped getting cut. It just got noticeable marks from the friction because I didn't really do the "bow torque".. though it didn't really get damaged.

I don't think I like trying to do bow torque, it feels.. unstable/inconsistent. Not sure if I could learn to do it well.

Pretty sure that a janggung Hwarang would be more than enough draw length for me, and I'm about 185cm

Just shot this today, I could draw it far enough. I hit a small cardboard plate at 50 yards once! (most of the time I missed the target... well, it was uphill too). It's not exactly easy to pull far enough but easy enough (beginners: get the 30lb bow!). Arrows were 32" right before the arrowhead started.

Definitely a *much* faster bow than my glass/bamboo hungarian, and can be pulled farther back (hungarian has 31" max pull..)

Comes with white fastflight endless string.

3 months later tl;dr it's a nice, fast, relatively affordable bow. I can draw it a few inches past my ear (33") while standing parallel, arrow going just under lip. My arm span from thumb to thumb is 69", 72" middle finger tip. Bow is very narrow and fast. Seems very durable. Just be careful not to twist it, although it's not that easy to twist. They gave me the right string length the first time and bow length, the bow string length is about 48". Length of the bow is 53", through the back unstrung I guess. Very good service..

This bow looks way better than a Samick SKB, though I've never shot the SKB... It looks way more like a gakgung, can probably be drawn farther  (same d/l for the 48" version?), is much more narrow yet likely still more durable. Not sure if this bow is outperformed by pricier SMG or YMG bows, or not. I can't comment on how it feels in comparison, nor the cast or anything, since I haven't shot those.

They sent me a second string that was longer when I pestered them, for free. Bow was still very shootable but I still prefer the first one. Higher brace height is more forgiving.






...

I ordered a 53" 45#@31" Nomad bow kit (comes with bag, arrows, glove, etc). That kit said the 48" bow was recommended, though, for some reason, but I chose 53".

I finally got it today, picked it up at the post office, and strung it.

http://i.imgur.com/gxVVGVe.jpg

Now a lot of people all over the world know how messy my room is.

The handle is pretty rough, but I guess that allows a firm grip. It's not bad at all. I like the look of this backing more than the pictures of the Kaya KTB. It's some sort of synthetic cloth, apparently.

The Hungarian bow on the left is about 50.5" nock to nock and about 54" tip to tip. But this is what the sticker on the Korean bow says.

http://i.imgur.com/5AU2bzy.jpg

And this is what I measured nock to nock. About 51" tip to tip? 48" nock to nock.

http://i.imgur.com/oyPs6zlh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1Z18Fsqh.jpg

What the manual says...

http://i.imgur.com/g3q61Pk.jpg

Sticker in bow string bag

http://i.imgur.com/pTnLjGT.jpg

124cm ~= 48.8"

This bow is the 53" version.

I was still able to draw it pretty far, to the tip of the arrowheads, before the outer limbs got parallel. (little over 33", with the carbon arrows it came with) Though it felt like it began stacking. Because of lack of strength. It does begin to increase in draw weight pretty quickly in the last inches of draw, but possibly only to 55lb at 33" or so. I have gotten better at shooting it with time.

The carbon arrows it came with.

http://i.imgur.com/EhivpSk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/r58m1XLh.jpg

Seems like the nock is way too wide for the string. They're very loose on it. Guess I will have to double/triple serve the string...

The nocks in the wooden arrows I have are barely thick enough to stay on the string without falling off, but still very loose. I feel like my Easton Gamegetter aluminum arrows, which have an even smaller nock, should stick just fine. If I added more serving, then they'd be too tight, so I can't shoot all my arrows with the same serving.

More bow pics, KTB glove

http://i.imgur.com/jDxR7gzh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Qxu8h6xh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rDV1POah.jpg

I will shoot this bow later today.

It's pretty easy to string with a step-through method.

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If all goes well, just one more day until it arrives. Then I'll be able to shoot it at a range

edit: USPS failed to deliver... I'll have to pick it up at the post office Saturday

I am not sure if MJ SYSTEM/Freddie Archery/Nomad is a branch of Kaya. I've only seen threads about problems (and replacements) for Kaya bows. Either way, they're nice and will most likely send you a replacement if your bow breaks.

I bought a 53" nomad. (is actually 48" notch to notch).

For my Nomad, the backing is synthetic cloth and the ears seem rather short, but I like it. I didn't see anything wrong with it. I really doubt that it would break if you stay within the stated draw length, which is 31" for the 48" version and 33" for the 53" version. I do not expect it to get damaged, I've already shot several hundred arrows with it

I wonder if their Taegeuk Horn Bow from koreanbow.com is a "real" sinew-backed bow? If so, it's really cheap

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(30 replies, posted in Arrows)

Hello

Wow... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ1FMiyHe8

I hope that doesn't happen as much with self nocks.

Guess dry shooting korean bows is very fatal to them

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(9 replies, posted in Bows)

Just ordered a 53" Nomad bow set from koreanbow.com, 45lbs at 31"!

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(17 replies, posted in Bows)

Awesome!

Hmm... about the noise... maybe smaller fletchings? Or the arrows aren't stiff enough. Maybe a different string?

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(19 replies, posted in Bows)

yeah, I made a thumb tab as described here with faux leather and it's pretty good. I like it more than thumb rings, I just have to tighten it so it stops flying off my finger when I shoot

https://picasaweb.google.com/1012293482 … bedwebsite

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(9 replies, posted in Bows)

Thanks. So, is it safe to assume that the MJ System Nomad KTB (53" long version) could be drawn safely to 35-36"? Hopefully it won't delaminate or anything once I get one.

So up to the outer limbs (start of the ears before they curve, so the limbs make a C) being parallel is okay? I tended to draw my PVC bow which is slightly shorter to a point past where they went parallel

I'd also need to get longer bamboo shafts... I feel like I might end up trying a Kyudo-ish draw since it's long, the arms are aligned, yet it's also pretty high (arrow passes next to the mouth). Yet it seems shorter (?) than a full Korean long range draw, but still ergonomic. Should be good for shorter range shooting. Or I'll just stick to shorter draws. lel, I'm overthinking again

With the 33" arrows, it should be okay. I could just draw to under my ear; I think a lot of people do that and it's good enough.

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(19 replies, posted in Bows)

Since you've got some experience with archery, I _guess_ a heavier bow wouldn't be much of a problem, except maybe when learning thumb draw. Drawing with a thumb ring does feel different. It didn't take me too long to learn. I just looked at instructional videos and pictures of thumb draw and started just drawing partially. Then it wasn't too hard to draw my 50# bow, and I was (and still am) a total noob.

For some people, thumb draw doesn't feel good at first, but for me it feels more natural than three fingers. If you're waiting for a ring/glove/etc, maybe you could try shooting the Kaya with your bare thumb to try it out? I didn't even try drawing bare thumbed until I borrowed someone's bow at a range when I didn't have a thumb ring with me... it was about 50# but the string was rather thick, so it didn't hurt much.

To learn to shoot well with thumb draw, you could just start by drawing partially, as demonstrated here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFPssNiSvOg#t=2m20s

Just in case... It's really important that you nock your arrow above where the top of your bow hand is to avoid being cut by the fletchings. Then you won't even need a glove in the bow hand.

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(9 replies, posted in Bows)

Thanks for the reply. Seems like there's a bug with that "The Korean bow is backed with _" question, Pun stop bots question, that cut off your post.. because that's when my posts got cut off
It seems to cut off the last 133-134 characters?!?

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(9 replies, posted in Bows)

I wasn't sure if I should get a Hwarang, MJ System Black Shadow Matte, 53" or Nomad KTB 53", or if I should get 30lb, 40lb, or 50lb at 31". I am between 185cm and 190cm tall. My arm span is 178cm/70" thumb to thumb with arms spread out.

Most of my practice has been with a 50lb@30" Hungarian style bow. After a few rounds, I become more tired and start missing the target at 20 yards. At least the string never slaps my arm.

My 30#@28" flatbow just has too much handshock. Its brace height is lower and the string jerks forward from the brace height when it is shot, slapping my arm. I still have a strange bruise/nodule on my bow hand, at the little finger joint, from the handshock a week ago.

Although I can pull up to 70lbs max (get tired quickly), I should probably get the Nomad at 30lb. Right? Because I am a beginner and I do not feel as comfortable shooting as I would like to. Perhaps, when I actually make some progress in two or three years, I could get a more powerful Hwarang (maybe 60# or more).

However, an archer at the range told me I should just shoot more with my 50# bow because that's what I'm used to. I guess he might be right, but I don't see how shooting a lighter bow hurts rather than helps get better form.

Instead of buying a bow, should just try to make really heavy arrows for the flatbow? I don't think its draw will be as even, but it should be good enough? I could wrap something soft on the handle. Would it be too different to shoot from a Korean bow? (both with thumb draw, heavy arrows). I could make longer arrows, but I'm not sure if that 71" hickory flatbow should be drawn more than 32". It already has taken some set. I can draw to right under my ear at around 32", but I might want to learn to shoot with a longer, lower draw.

I would like to set up some sort of short range target/makiwara type thing in my apartment. Perhaps a cardboard box with foam or something inside, or one of those soft cube targets? And I should probably get a book. The translated Gao Ying book, and Thomas's Korean Archery book?

I would appreciate any advice. Sorry for the long post..

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(3 replies, posted in New Member Introductions)

morton509 wrote:

I'm 6ft and recently got the larger Hwarang.  I draw roughly 32" under the ear.  I don't feel like I'm maxing out the bow at that draw length.  With the Kaya windfighter I also have, I do feel like it reaches the maximum draw length capabilities at 32".  The 36"-38" draw you want seems wild, I don't know if the janggung Hwarang can reach that.  I'm pretty sure they can make custom length bows for a little extra cash.  Message Bluelake for more info,  he can answer all your questions.  What part of California are you from?  There is a traditional Korean archery festival in Valley Center outside of San Diego in the beginning of Oct.

Thanks for the info. I'll actually be in UCSD during October.

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(2 replies, posted in Arrows)

Welcome

I use a relatively slow 50#@30 in (I draw to 31" or so) hungarian-style fiberglass and bamboo bow, with thumb draw, with the heaviest/stiffest Easton gamegetters I could get, 2018 or something I think, and 200gr points, 5.5" triple shield feathers. I went shooting today for about 2 hours, one of them stuck very hard to wood behind the target but it didn't bend significantly.

I also have a few arrows spined 55-60, port orford cedar, that I haven't shot much, from 3 rivers archery. The nocks were a lot looser than on the easton arrows...

I shoot around 15-40m

From what I've read, with correct technique/hand torque, spine doesn't matter much?

edit: what the hell, my post got cut off after the security question...

Aluminum is okay as long as it doesn't bend. I think my ideal would be something like birch or some other dense hardwood (palm?) for heavy arrows, bamboo for a lighter arrow for longer ranges, maybe meadowsweets or similar arrows from shoots?

Earlier, I had made arrows from 33" bamboo I had gotten spined for 45-50 from ebay. 200gr screw-in points, I just drilled on the thicker(?) side and then drilled the points in with a little gorilla glue and then hand fletched with scissor cut large, very helical fletchings and gorilla glue. I made the nocks by filing and then wrapping nylon cord below/across the nocks. They flew very straight but a lot of them split at the front or lost their heads after pulling from the hay.. the heads weren't very straight with the shaft either. I feel like the brass ones that are like glue-in points but with screw indentations inside would be best

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(3 replies, posted in New Member Introductions)

Hello everyone. I'm pretty new to archery, though I've had an interest in it for a long time.

I've considered buying some sort of Korean style bow but my "full"/longest draw length appears to be around 39"/99cm, (I'm at least 6'1"/185cm tall) and I'd like to be able to draw that far. It'd probably be 36-38", but I would just like to play it safe... and I don't think I've seen any commercial bows that can be safely drawn further than 36". I did make a ~50" long nock to nock PVC bow with a lot of string follow that I ended up snapping by trying to draw it all the way to my shoulder.

...Perhaps a Hwarang janggung will actually be enough for me. I might get one once I get better, hopefully not too late. I'm thinking, perhaps 40#@28"/65-70#@35" or so

I have a hungarian type fiberglass/bamboo bow and a long, hickory flatbow. I took an interest in Korean archery because of the beauty and efficiency of the Korean bow, and because of the distances they shoot them at.

I've thought of eventually getting a korean laminated bow when I get better, but just drawing to right underneath my ear (probably around 32-33"), which I can already do with my flatbow. Or I could build a PVC bow with really long ears of bamboo...

Oh well. Yeah. This forum is really interesting. Shame it's so inactive now


edit 2017: haha that draw length was so ridiculous. I mean, I'd probably have something similar to that if I did Kyudo because of the high wrist and the long extension, drawing to behind the head and sometimes behind shoulder even. 33" is more than enough with Korean form, in fact it feels like really stretching it, at least with the very open Korean stance (or maybe it's the draw weight..). I'm going with a 31.5" draw length (2ja 7.5 chi arrows) - enough to draw a bit past my ear, under my ear

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(30 replies, posted in Arrows)

I see that this thread is over a year old, and this post doesn't really answer the OP but it's on the front page of the arrows forum...

On the bamboo arrows I've made, I just did self nocks with a file and wrapped them with nylon thread, also crossing thread through the nock itself. I haven't had one break at the nock, although plenty split near the head.

I imagine bone would be good to make nocks out of?