zdog....I think that is just about where I am at also. Seems to shoot well at that draw length.
127 2011-11-06 13:36:03
Re: Draw Length and Anchor (51 replies, posted in Technique)
Yes I did, and I thought that I replied. But let me check again
128 2011-11-06 12:13:34
Re: Draw Length and Anchor (51 replies, posted in Technique)
bjarup,
Based on Thomas' description above, I believe it to be the back of the bow.
That is how a lot of western shooters measure draw also. I cannot speak for the Khan, but for the hwarangs that I have/had,
I must have a draw of about 31.5 inches, drawing a 32.5 inch arrow to my thumb or finger.
Hopefully this helps, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can help.
129 2011-11-06 12:00:41
Re: THE HWARANG AND HUNTING. (14 replies, posted in Technique)
Hannu,
That is a pretty safe bet.
Also, here in U.S., not many of us are hunting with the ring, and even fewer with the Korean bow. Please, let us know how you do? Are you hunting in Finland?
130 2011-11-02 16:56:39
Topic: Hunting and the Korean Traditional Bow (4 replies, posted in Hunting)
Thomas,
Thank you for letting us have this spot to communicate specifically on this topic. I know of no where else that such a place exist on the web.
How does hunting shape the korean bow? If at all?
Obviously, the short length of the bow is always a plus in the woods. Western style "longbow" shooters have even managed to work there glass bows down to 58 or less inches, understanding that the shorter the bow the better the maneuverability.
Is there anything else that might add to the development of its uniqueness among asian bows?
Joseph
131 2011-11-02 12:26:29
Re: THE HWARANG AND HUNTING. (14 replies, posted in Technique)
Trident wrote:
Ah, if they don't shoot at it that's weird... I shoot at 3d targets all the time, its not the same as a real animal, it's that superstitious Buddhist thinking which I am aware of but don't agree with. There is nothing wrong with hunting and killing an animal as long as it's consumed and not left for dead. I dont get their attitudes about sustenance. You can't live on rice and kimchee alone. Its like people who eat fish and not meat and say they are vegetarian, or my Indian friend who fancies leather wallets and shoes but won't eat beef, jeez guys cut the BS. Seriously...
Trident, well put. Respect should be given the animal, and we should perceive it as a privilege. To sustain ourselves.
For indigenous people all over the world, hunting had and has a very spiritual component to it, and respect of the animal was a priority.
Hunting has gotten a very bad name, and for good reason in some cases. I won't rant on about the so called "hunting" that takes place on the TV shows, or the minimizing of an animals life just because it does not have huge antlers.
Hunting has become a source of vanity for the vast majority of hunters. By minimizing the animal, a person minimizes them self.
This is why I posed the question, in an effort to become as accurate as possible at a close range using the Korean bow and thumb ring. To insure, as much as we can, good shot placement that minimizes any pain and suffering.
To just go out and not put the "work" into it would be a disrespect to the animal, and from which it is we come.
132 2011-11-02 00:54:49
Re: THE HWARANG AND HUNTING. (14 replies, posted in Technique)
Thomas, thank you for the input.
Yes, as you know Jamie, I'm well aware of the push pull method. Are you drawing the bow back to 32" with the push pull method? It may be the best way to go if you can get it consistently back to full draw.
I was just wanting to get some thoughts on any historical or traditional Korean approach to this topic. Not much is out there that I have seen.
Also, ymjang007 of youtube fame, has a draw that does not ever seem to be too consistent.
My "aim" is to find a traditional Korean style of draw that would provide consistent and repeatable results, while hunting large game animals such as the white tail.
The push pull method maybe the approach as you suggest until I am further educated.
Also, as Thomas suggested, the draw illustrated in the video above would also work very nice, perhaps even more consistent.
133 2011-11-01 00:35:59
Re: Great Lakes/Chicago Region (10 replies, posted in North America)
Jamie,
Count me in. If you need any help in setting up the range, I will do all that I can.
Joe
134 2011-10-31 22:52:06
Topic: THE HWARANG AND HUNTING. (14 replies, posted in Technique)
I plan on taking my Hwarang to the woods this winter. It will be mid December here in MI, and cold. But, I will finally get a brake in my studies.
This maybe a topic that was touched on before, but not specifically for the use of hunting.
It would not be advantageous to raise the bow high above the head while pursuing game.
So my question is, does anyone here hunt with the Korean bow, and if so how do you draw the bow while being so close to game?
I saw this gentleman on youtube and thought that it might work.
Please, let me know if any one has any ideas or experience. This is all new for me.
Thank you and kind regards,
Joe
135 2011-10-15 00:41:51
Re: Intention to remain a member (39 replies, posted in General Interest)
Please Thomas, keep me on the list.
thank you,
Joe
136 2011-09-03 18:48:04
Re: my new bow quiver.. (6 replies, posted in Accessories)
I think that was a brilliant idea, simple and effective, and gives you a great base to work from.
Brilliant!
137 2011-09-02 16:46:25
Topic: Maintenance of the Hwarang. (1 replies, posted in Bows)
This is more of a mundane question, but what is the process of caring for the birch bark and over all care of the hwarang?
I would like to apply some wax or some moisturizer of some kind in order to keep it looking nice........it will be getting a lot of use.
What is a good protectant for the bow?
Thank you
Joe
138 2011-09-01 11:23:11
Re: Carbon Bamboo Arrows (26 replies, posted in Arrows)
Those look really nice. Any info on ordering or price?
139 2011-08-31 01:57:29
Topic: Draw Length and Anchor (51 replies, posted in Technique)
Throught my research on the web, both video, historical photos, and a wide variety of KTA's, it is becoming apparent that not all are pulling there bow to the same location. And it also seems that anchor is often times sporadic even while shooting in the same spot and at the same target.
The question is, how is draw length determined from one archer to the other?
I currently am using 32.5 inch carbons, and am pulling those back far enough for the connection of the field point and arrow comes together. Now generally using a western style draw, I draw the bow back 28inches.
Is this far enough? The Korean bow needs to be drawn to full capacity, is this happening at 32 inches?
Thank you for any input.
Joseph
140 2011-08-30 23:53:01
Topic: Maintenance of the Hwarang. (3 replies, posted in Bows)
I love to keep a nice bow. What is the best wax to use on the birch and belly of the hwarang bows?
Thank you
Joseph
141 2011-08-30 23:36:35
Re: KTB performance data (4 replies, posted in Bows)
I agree whole heartedly. For the price that is paid for a KTB, it is hard to beat in any discipline.
Glad to hear that you are liking it so much.
142 2011-08-28 15:03:34
Re: Hwarang for sale. (8 replies, posted in Buy/Sell/Trade)
Jamie,
You spoke so well of the hwarang that you had......I had to try one out.........
I'll let you know how it shoots when I get it.
143 2011-08-28 14:59:06
Re: Size adjustment. (1 replies, posted in Thumb Rings)
JB weld is a great idea. If you apply too much you can then remove a little with a dremel tool.
That is a great suggestion.
144 2011-08-26 10:41:47
Re: Bow Falling forward (13 replies, posted in Technique)
Interesting. For the life of me I cannot find a video, that I once had of a yumi bow, and a device that was to made show the advantages of letting the bow twist in the hand, or propel forward.
With the same arrow and same bow, the device showed what a contrast there was in a bow that remaind stationary after the shot, and a bow that was allowed to fall naturally forward.
145 2011-08-25 22:40:29
Re: Hwarang for sale. (8 replies, posted in Buy/Sell/Trade)
Alright here is a try,
146 2011-08-25 22:30:37
Re: Hwarang for sale. (8 replies, posted in Buy/Sell/Trade)
Zdogk9,
As bluelake mentioned, thank you for the heads up on the ad.
Never had I been to that site before, and did not know that it exist.
But while researching here, I came across your post, and the gentleman will be sending the bow this week.
Thank you,
Could anyone comment on the tiller of this bow while strung?
Im going to try and figure out how to post photos here.
147 2011-07-29 12:25:22
Topic: Bow Falling forward (13 replies, posted in Technique)
Please, forgive my ignorance but in an effort to learn proper Korean Technique I would like to post a few questions. One being, recently I have seen some historical photos of korean Hwarang Knights shooting off of horseback with the bow falling forward after the shot.
And although that seems to be consistent with all the other historical photos Ive seen, not all of todays Korean archers do this. Why is that?
Second being, what would be the advantage of this? I know yumi shooters do this, and I know the reasoning, but they do it in a manner that allows the bow to propel itself forward, where some of todays Korean archers look as though they are twisting the bow forward with the wrist?
I have many more questions, but will leave it at this for now.
Thank you,
Joe
148 2011-07-27 15:57:54
Topic: New Kaya Korean (8 replies, posted in Kaya Bows)
This is the third Kaya that I have had. Honestly, the first couple were not as I ordered, and that is in no way a reflection of the company, only the dealer.
Yesterday, I received the bow that I had ordered and it is a rocket. 55@31, it just hands down performs better than any western longbow or recurve that I have ever shot at that weight.
Unbelievable value this bow is. Although I don't care much for the pattern, performance is of more importance to me anyway.
Trying to learn the Korean discipline or style of archery, but if I decide not to shoot that way, this bow will still perform just fine.
149 2011-06-16 20:23:18
Re: Information about various makes of Korean bows (28 replies, posted in Bows)
Please attach the photos here, we all would love to see them.
150 2011-02-07 00:39:02
Topic: Dynamic VS Static release (6 replies, posted in Technique)
It is the general understanding that a dynamic release (one that lets the arrow loose the moment that the archer reaches his draw length or anchor point) is a better transfer of energy to the arrow and thus a better performing arrow.
In my endeavor to learn as much as possible about korean archery technique, I have noticed that most archers rigidly bring the string back and hold for some time. Why is this? And would this not be prohibitive practice when one was practicing, with the intent of hunting or going to war?
The korean discipine of archery is very aesthetically pleasing, and the korean bow is a piece of art. Just am not convinced that those in ancient times would find it useful to hold the bow back for so long, robbing the arrow of energy, and the archer time to get the next arrow off to its mark.
I admit that I have allot to learn. Thank you and regards,
Joseph